One hears that you were planning a biopic on another gangster when you switched to doing one on Arun Gawli…
Yes, three years ago, director Ashim Ahluwalia and I were planning a film on another don when some guys approached me to play Arun Gawli. They assured me that they had the rights and showed me some computer images which brought out the likeness between us. But the script was terrible, one of those completely fictitious accounts with none of the 'realness' of a biopic. I didn't want to be this guy in a white-kurta pyjama and cap, climbing cables. Even the dialogues were filmi!
If everything was out of sync, how come you still stepped in?
I started reading up on Gawli and found the material engrossing. The man had seen it all, his story spanned decades and I was hooked! What caught my imagination was that people call him "Daddy". Usually they refer to a don as 'bhai' or 'don'. I realised that although dreaded, he had another side which intrigued me.
Buzz is, you rewrote the script?
I locked myself up in a hotel for two months and put a structure to the story and sent it to Ashim. Both of us then co-wrote the script. Somewhere along the way, the guys who’d approached me earlier didn't have the rights so the project fizzled out. By then I’d done so much work on the script that I decided to produce it and approached his family, convincing them to give their nod. After that, I met the big man himself and got his blessings.
Tell us about your first interaction with Gawli.
I met him when he was out on parole. The first few times, he was slightly sceptical and I understood that he's reserved because of his colourful past. For him to accept that someone would be playing him in a film took some adjustment. Also, his story will be out while he’s still living.
What's your take on him?
He's not flamboyant, doesn’t go to dance bars and blow up money on bar girls and mistresses. He's spent half his life in jail but is a Godfearing, family man. At home, there are photographs of Gods everywhere, he is always praying. He commands respect, thousands come to visit him when he’s on parole, yet he’s also dreaded. Mostly, he is quiet, well-mannered and soft-spoken, but you know he’s walked the dark side. After a few meetings, he started opening up to me. I assured him it wouldn’t be a propaganda story, I wanted to tell it the way it is, in a realistic manner. His consent convinced me this was a man with self-confidence. He is the only guy who stood up to Dawood Ibrahim.
You started shooting before he had given his consent, why?
We didn't have a signed agreement but I'd spoken to his family. By the time he came out on parole, we'd finished one schedule. He was taken aback, wondering how I’d started without his official permission. I pointed out he’d verbally committed to me. He said, "Haan maine toh tujhe zabaan di thi."
Why did you lock yourself away for a year-and-a-half?
You have to invest a lot to roles like this and Ashim made everything so realistic that during the duration of the shoot, I was living in a different world. Characters like this isolate you and when I was shooting, I rarely wanted to be around people. Even now, I’m tempted to tell someone in Gawli’s style, "Tujhe aake chamkaoon kya?"